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	<title>Comments on: REALbasic Video Training</title>
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	<description>Software Development Using REALbasic</description>
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		<title>By: Alena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently came across your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I don&#039;t know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.

Alena

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently came across your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I don&#8217;t know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.</p>
<p>Alena</p>
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		<title>By: npalardy</title>
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		<dc:creator>npalardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-168&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Bart Silverstrim &lt;/a&gt; 
All the RBtv episodes are hosted on the ARBP web site</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-168" rel="nofollow">@Bart Silverstrim </a><br />
All the RBtv episodes are hosted on the ARBP web site</p>
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		<title>By: Bart Silverstrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart Silverstrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-167&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Bob Keeney &lt;/a&gt; 
Second note...I did a search on iTunes for &quot;realbasic&quot; and there wasn&#039;t a hit. Search for rbdevzone, and it appears! Wonder if the keywords can be altered? Wonder if others are missing it the way I did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-167" rel="nofollow">@Bob Keeney </a><br />
Second note&#8230;I did a search on iTunes for &#8220;realbasic&#8221; and there wasn&#8217;t a hit. Search for rbdevzone, and it appears! Wonder if the keywords can be altered? Wonder if others are missing it the way I did?</p>
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		<title>By: Bart Silverstrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart Silverstrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-167&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Bob Keeney &lt;/a&gt; 
Thanks for the info! I didn&#039;t know about it. I thought at first that it had flown under the radar (I search through the ITMS for podcast listing on topics and didn&#039;t see this one listed) and see on the website that this is only the third podcast, so it seems fairly new. The only one that seemed promising was the RBTV podcast that seemed to have podfaded, I think after some unfortunate run of bad luck for the host.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-167" rel="nofollow">@Bob Keeney </a><br />
Thanks for the info! I didn&#8217;t know about it. I thought at first that it had flown under the radar (I search through the ITMS for podcast listing on topics and didn&#8217;t see this one listed) and see on the website that this is only the third podcast, so it seems fairly new. The only one that seemed promising was the RBTV podcast that seemed to have podfaded, I think after some unfortunate run of bad luck for the host.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Keeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Keeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-166&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Bart Silverstrim &lt;/a&gt; 
There *is* a podcast for REALbasic.  Check out Paul Lefebrve&#039;s podcast at http://www.rbdevzone.com/</description>
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There *is* a podcast for REALbasic.  Check out Paul Lefebrve&#8217;s podcast at <a href="http://www.rbdevzone.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rbdevzone.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bart Silverstrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart Silverstrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One suggestion just to consider is a video podcast, if you can team up with someone to do it. Then you get feedback, you can address users in a back-and-forth manner, and consider doing it with a free bit of content and have subscriptions for value added content (like professional-quality video, rather than semi-unscripted 1/2 hour sessions released as a podcast).

Not all new users will want to pay a decent bit for the compiler, then pay more for books (that are usually outdated) and more for a tutorial when there are other languages that are free or next to free to struggle through learning.

Personally, the attitude I see from the outside in is a that RB is something that is easy for people to pick up, and that most who are using it are doing it professionally and/or should be easily able to transition to using it when familiar with other languages. Maybe your experiences are different, but that&#039;s the perception I had; if help wasn&#039;t forthcoming from the NUG, you could pay for examples or tutorials or other sources of help, since free nuggets weren&#039;t forthcoming from the Internet. It&#039;s just too niche, and people investing time in using it want to be paid for it (which I can understand, but it also limits people getting into the language).

It&#039;s just not welcoming to attract new users and make it new-user-friendly while at the same time creating barriers to entry. I&#039;d far rather not deal with the hassle even if I had $50 or $25 or whatever XYZ resource will cost to pay for something when I could invest in a compiler (free or pay for) that when I run into trouble I can spend half an hour googling and sifting for an answer and get it right away rather than lose more money paying someone for a possible solution.

I&#039;d have loved to have a podcast where you get information, news, examples, whatnot...half hour or so at a time (or shorter)...that I could have listened to, gleaned information from, and given feedback to, and quite possibly purchased followup material or subscription services from if it&#039;s good. It&#039;s a labor of love to do that though. You&#039;ll lose time. You&#039;d gain pride and reputation and something to add to the resume when advertising your services. It&#039;s marketing that benefits in the long run, not the short term, and that is too high a perceived barrier for most people with the skills to do something like this to jump over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One suggestion just to consider is a video podcast, if you can team up with someone to do it. Then you get feedback, you can address users in a back-and-forth manner, and consider doing it with a free bit of content and have subscriptions for value added content (like professional-quality video, rather than semi-unscripted 1/2 hour sessions released as a podcast).</p>
<p>Not all new users will want to pay a decent bit for the compiler, then pay more for books (that are usually outdated) and more for a tutorial when there are other languages that are free or next to free to struggle through learning.</p>
<p>Personally, the attitude I see from the outside in is a that RB is something that is easy for people to pick up, and that most who are using it are doing it professionally and/or should be easily able to transition to using it when familiar with other languages. Maybe your experiences are different, but that&#8217;s the perception I had; if help wasn&#8217;t forthcoming from the NUG, you could pay for examples or tutorials or other sources of help, since free nuggets weren&#8217;t forthcoming from the Internet. It&#8217;s just too niche, and people investing time in using it want to be paid for it (which I can understand, but it also limits people getting into the language).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just not welcoming to attract new users and make it new-user-friendly while at the same time creating barriers to entry. I&#8217;d far rather not deal with the hassle even if I had $50 or $25 or whatever XYZ resource will cost to pay for something when I could invest in a compiler (free or pay for) that when I run into trouble I can spend half an hour googling and sifting for an answer and get it right away rather than lose more money paying someone for a possible solution.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have loved to have a podcast where you get information, news, examples, whatnot&#8230;half hour or so at a time (or shorter)&#8230;that I could have listened to, gleaned information from, and given feedback to, and quite possibly purchased followup material or subscription services from if it&#8217;s good. It&#8217;s a labor of love to do that though. You&#8217;ll lose time. You&#8217;d gain pride and reputation and something to add to the resume when advertising your services. It&#8217;s marketing that benefits in the long run, not the short term, and that is too high a perceived barrier for most people with the skills to do something like this to jump over.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Keeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Keeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, my initial goal is to get a bunch of material made so people can start looking at it (and getting some income).  Reviewing the RB Forums has been useful in gleaning ideas.  It&#039;s surprising how often the same questions come up over and over again.

Another issue with any REALbasic training is that you could spend an hours worth of video just exploring the Application class.  Useful?  Yes, but not for absolute beginners when there&#039;s a number of topics that a beginner would find more useful.

Plus I&#039;m not sure that having some basic code explanations wouldn&#039;t be helpful for some users.  Explain why a For Next loop works differently than a While Loop, or Do Loop can certainly be instructive.  If nothing else it provides good (incidental) material on how to debug in REALbasic using breakpoints and the variables list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, my initial goal is to get a bunch of material made so people can start looking at it (and getting some income).  Reviewing the RB Forums has been useful in gleaning ideas.  It&#8217;s surprising how often the same questions come up over and over again.</p>
<p>Another issue with any REALbasic training is that you could spend an hours worth of video just exploring the Application class.  Useful?  Yes, but not for absolute beginners when there&#8217;s a number of topics that a beginner would find more useful.</p>
<p>Plus I&#8217;m not sure that having some basic code explanations wouldn&#8217;t be helpful for some users.  Explain why a For Next loop works differently than a While Loop, or Do Loop can certainly be instructive.  If nothing else it provides good (incidental) material on how to debug in REALbasic using breakpoints and the variables list.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattias Sandström</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattias Sandström</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last time I took some online training it was Adobe&#039;s &quot;Flex in a Week&quot; (http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/videotraining/) tutorial and that was great. It was great because it was divided into about 25-30 chunks, each 10-15 minutes and were combined with a PDF describing the steps. With the &quot;chunked&quot; approach it was easy to digest and the example project kept it all together. The combination of exercise and theory was also great. Producing Flex in a week training must have taken some serious efforts.

For new users it would certainly make sense to produce a &quot;REALbasic in a Week&quot; series following the outline of &quot;Flex in a Week&quot;. I often refresh my skills by visiting a couple of theory sections (specially on the more advanced topics). However, I don&#039;t see the point in producing a &quot;Learn to program Basic&quot; type of training, spending hours on explaining for-loops, if/then/else etc, that would be too beginner focused and not particularly appealing to more advanced users.

As Christian said - seems to be tons of work.... Drop me a line if you want to brainstorm some sample project and I&#039;d be happy to help you with certain aspects of the project.

Merry xmas,
/msa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time I took some online training it was Adobe&#8217;s &#8220;Flex in a Week&#8221; (<a href="http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/videotraining/" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/videotraining/</a>) tutorial and that was great. It was great because it was divided into about 25-30 chunks, each 10-15 minutes and were combined with a PDF describing the steps. With the &#8220;chunked&#8221; approach it was easy to digest and the example project kept it all together. The combination of exercise and theory was also great. Producing Flex in a week training must have taken some serious efforts.</p>
<p>For new users it would certainly make sense to produce a &#8220;REALbasic in a Week&#8221; series following the outline of &#8220;Flex in a Week&#8221;. I often refresh my skills by visiting a couple of theory sections (specially on the more advanced topics). However, I don&#8217;t see the point in producing a &#8220;Learn to program Basic&#8221; type of training, spending hours on explaining for-loops, if/then/else etc, that would be too beginner focused and not particularly appealing to more advanced users.</p>
<p>As Christian said &#8211; seems to be tons of work&#8230;. Drop me a line if you want to brainstorm some sample project and I&#8217;d be happy to help you with certain aspects of the project.</p>
<p>Merry xmas,<br />
/msa</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Schmitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Schmitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I have tutorial videos on my website. I can tell you that I need normally half a day for a video. You need to write the sample project. It must work well and be as small as possible. Second you print the project and start new. You build the project in easy steps and write a script with all steps. Prepare the Mac for recording. No system sounds, some key/mouse clicks and a good screen resolution. Also hide your stuff. Now you need to start recording. Be aware that you record stuff often several times. For example if you have mistakes, you undo and redo it so you can later cut the mistakes away. Once I have my videos, I need to cut them. Than I need to write a script for the speech and record the speech portions. I use text to speech from Mac OS X as I&#039;m not a native english speaker. Once sound is done, I need to review the video and look for mistakes, encode it to 5 formats, upload it and update the website. In total at least 2 hours for a quick video, but often 5 to 6 hours. At least I don&#039;t get much other stuff done on a day I make a video....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have tutorial videos on my website. I can tell you that I need normally half a day for a video. You need to write the sample project. It must work well and be as small as possible. Second you print the project and start new. You build the project in easy steps and write a script with all steps. Prepare the Mac for recording. No system sounds, some key/mouse clicks and a good screen resolution. Also hide your stuff. Now you need to start recording. Be aware that you record stuff often several times. For example if you have mistakes, you undo and redo it so you can later cut the mistakes away. Once I have my videos, I need to cut them. Than I need to write a script for the speech and record the speech portions. I use text to speech from Mac OS X as I&#8217;m not a native english speaker. Once sound is done, I need to review the video and look for mistakes, encode it to 5 formats, upload it and update the website. In total at least 2 hours for a quick video, but often 5 to 6 hours. At least I don&#8217;t get much other stuff done on a day I make a video&#8230;.</p>
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